tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3438619740844172852.post3798108635618874340..comments2023-04-04T08:52:17.711+01:00Comments on Ralph Horsley: ValuesRalph Horsleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04910644039937106729noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3438619740844172852.post-22365325449582833292011-01-18T17:04:21.412+00:002011-01-18T17:04:21.412+00:00Jan: Thankfully they aren't worn in public - s...Jan: Thankfully they aren't worn in public - so the 'evil scientist' persona stays safely in my office - Bwahahaha!<br /><br />Tommi: Yes, and the modern night vision works similarly in that it creates a monochromatic image.<br /><br />Comment posted.<br /><br />Sean: I've certainly found them useful.<br /><br />Felipe: yep, that does sound like a pain, but whatever works...<br /><br />Vincent: A lot of artists do use an underpainting for this very reason, but as I like to build up washes of acrylic I have found a blanket monochromatic underpaint too intrusive - as have you.<br /><br />Gordon: Yes, you are not the only person to make a similar observation, and that is why in the last couple of years I have been working hard to address those issues. I certainly feel a lot happier with my current approach, and feel that is borne out in my paintings over the last 18 months+.<br /><br />I guess you are ribbing me about Anne - after all I am married to her ;)<br /><br />David: The spectacles do work well, but I am aware that a simple red filter is ultimately slightly crude, and that there is likely to be some distortion of the value as it shifts certain colours into the red monochrome*, but as a quick and easy tool it is very useful.<br /><br />*My physics isn't really up to answering this comprehensively.<br /><br />Thanks for all the comments.Ralph Horsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04910644039937106729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3438619740844172852.post-84934928227641714132011-01-15T00:08:45.015+00:002011-01-15T00:08:45.015+00:00Great post!
That sounds like a really good idea ...Great post! <br /><br />That sounds like a really good idea - Establishing the extreme values and then working back within those set boundaries.<br /> <br />I've found the Andrew Loomis section on Values in his book 'Creative Illustration' really interesting stuff (http://alexhays.com/loomis/), he goes into great detail on value pattern strategies for different lighting conditions, and also explores use of Value as pattern in composition. The whole thing kind of makes me think about the parallel in how a driver shifts up and down gears in a car (clear, definitive, deliberate, stepped transitions and categories of tone with purpose). Definitely easier to say than to do though!<br /><br />I’ve tried looking through some of those blue and red 3D specs with one eye shut at photos in the past, in an attempt to analyse the how different materials/colours translate to a value scale - to try judge the degree of tonal difference between things under the lighting conditions in the photograph - which seemed to work ok, but those purpose built tonal spectacles look spectacular! And using them to judge how well values are working in a painting ‘on the go’ sounds like a brilliant idea.David Michael Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02715982372442585072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3438619740844172852.post-75762417851119733592011-01-14T22:49:37.235+00:002011-01-14T22:49:37.235+00:00I've always admired the detail and texture in ...I've always admired the detail and texture in your paintings but they'e not always been easy to make out as scenes due to value issues. I seem to recall it's the one criticism of your work that I've presumed to make on DA, not that I am worthy to criticize. <br /><br />One of the best artists for nicely readable compositions is one Anne Stokes. I don't know if you've heard of her, but maybe you two should get together... Combined you two would make the perfect artist...Gordon Napierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01374065314604533766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3438619740844172852.post-74429701582438558722011-01-14T20:14:21.435+00:002011-01-14T20:14:21.435+00:00I tried painting greyscale first, and adding a col...I tried painting greyscale first, and adding a color or overlay layer on top. But skin tone seems to be hard to achieve this way. Thus, like you, i only turn my painting greyscale to check the values. :) <br /><br />Btw, the spectacles seems cool!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12312894900218282594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3438619740844172852.post-56727282513758590422011-01-14T15:48:47.931+00:002011-01-14T15:48:47.931+00:00Ahh nice tip with the lenses, I was just taking pi...Ahh nice tip with the lenses, I was just taking pictures and converting to grayscale in photoshop, it was a pain.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12491520248207395278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3438619740844172852.post-68063997165691744362011-01-14T14:30:44.334+00:002011-01-14T14:30:44.334+00:00haha, now that is a brilliant idea. Thanks Ralph!haha, now that is a brilliant idea. Thanks Ralph!Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17860566249304591279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3438619740844172852.post-18607243237402362002011-01-14T13:44:56.529+00:002011-01-14T13:44:56.529+00:00Those red lenses remind of the red night vision go...Those red lenses remind of the red night vision goggles they used is WWII (they wore them in the light to protect their night vision). Great value study- if you're interested I have a piece on my blog http://tommiart.blogspot.com/ where I struggled with some similar issues. If you have time leave a comment.<br />Cheers TomTommihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07802501612389119415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3438619740844172852.post-77509859174608758322011-01-14T12:15:52.316+00:002011-01-14T12:15:52.316+00:00:D Those are some funny spectacles. I can imagine ...:D Those are some funny spectacles. I can imagine that being helpful, I couldn't live without a "Desaturate" adjustment layer. <br /><br />Still, these would make an artist look more like an evil scientist. :PJanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02852127435931262360noreply@blogger.com